Torque Revisited — Question 4

Section 11-5 · Physics pages 1638–1639

Question 4 A central force can have torque about a displaced origin A particle at (3, 4, 0) m feels⃗F = −2⃗r in numerical SI units. Origin A is at (1, 0, 0) m relative to O. x y particle A Schematic; labels, not drawing lengths, specify the data. (a) Find torque about O and about A. (b) Explain why calling a force central requires naming its center.
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Question 4 - Solution A central force can have torque about a displaced origin x y particle A (a) Derivation and calculation The force is⃗F = −2⃗r = (−6, −8, 0) N. About its force center,⃗ τO =⃗r × (−2⃗r) =⃗0 . Relative to A,⃗rA = (3, 4, 0) −(1, 0, 0) = (2, 4, 0) m. Therefore⃗ τA = (2, 4, 0) × (−6, −8, 0) = 8ˆz N m . (b) Result and interpretation The origin-shift identity gives the same result:⃗ τA =⃗τO −⃗a ×⃗F = 0 −(ˆx) × (−6ˆx −8ˆy) = 8ˆz. The force line passes through O, but not through A. Calling a force central specifies its center; it does not imply zero torque about every origin. Physical check The counterclockwise moment about A follows from the force line passing to its left.

Question 4

A central force can have torque about a displaced origin

A particle at (3,4,0)m(3,4,0)\,\mathrm m feels F→=−2r→\vec F=-2\vec r in numerical SI units. Origin AA is at (1,0,0)m(1,0,0)\,\mathrm m relative to OO.

Diagram shown in the original SVG worksheet.

  1. Find torque about OO and about AA.

  2. Explain why calling a force central requires naming its center.

Question 4 - Solution

A central force can have torque about a displaced origin

Diagram shown in the original SVG worksheet.

(a) Derivation and calculation

The force is F→=−2r→=(−6,−8,0)\vec F=-2\vec r=(-6,-8,0) N. About its force center, τ→O=r→×(−2r→)=0→.\boxed{\vec\tau_O=\vec r\times(-2\vec r)=\vec0}. Relative to AA, r→A=(3,4,0)−(1,0,0)=(2,4,0)\vec r_A=(3,4,0)-(1,0,0)=(2,4,0) m. Therefore τ→A=(2,4,0)×(−6,−8,0)=8ẑNm.\boxed{\vec\tau_A=(2,4,0)\times(-6,-8,0)=8\hat z\ \mathrm{N\,m}}.

(b) Result and interpretation

The origin-shift identity gives the same result: τ→A=τ→O−a→×F→=0−(x̂)×(−6x̂−8ŷ)=8ẑ.\vec\tau_A=\vec\tau_O-\vec a\times\vec F =0-(\hat x)\times(-6\hat x-8\hat y)=8\hat z. The force line passes through OO, but not through AA. Calling a force central specifies its center; it does not imply zero torque about every origin.

Physical check

The counterclockwise moment about AA follows from the force line passing to its left.